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Hoc in situ interretiali ordinantur responsiones, explanationes, et decreta ex « Notitiae » aliisque interdum fontibus (ut AAS) desumpta, quae facilius aliis locis minime inveniuntur. Finis est praestare textum originalem, versionem anglicam, et exemplar PDF paginarum pertinentium ex « Notitiae » vel alio fonte. Presens igitur labor opusculum « Ordo Missae locis correspondentibus illustratus » aliquatenus extendit. Est enim labor imperfectus quem, cum operae mihi est, suscipio. Denique Reverendo domino Danieli Gill, domino Radosław Gosiewski, et domino Abram Córdova y Muenzberg, qui nonnullas ex responsionibus transcripserunt, gratias refero, item etiam domino Ioanni Oliveire dominaeque Cristae Mootz, qui in linguam anglicam responsiones quasdam verteri adiuvaverunt. Exemplaria PDF exstant etiam textuum nondum transcriptorum. This website organizes responses, explanations, and decrees from Notitiae and sometimes from other sources (such as AAS) that are not readily available in other places. The goal is to provide the original text, an English translation, and a PDF scan of the relevant pages from Notitiae or other source. In some ways, the project is a further development of my Cross-Referenced Ordo Missae. This is an ongoing prject which I work on in my spare time. I am also grateful for the help of Rev. Daniel Gill, Mr. Radosław Gosiewski, and Mr. Abram Córdova y Muenzberg in transcribing some of these responses and also to Mr. Johan Oliveire and Miss Crista Mootz for helping to translate certain responses into English. PDFs are available even for texts that have not yet been transcribed.
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3. Quando nullus fidelis habetur qui acclamationem post consecrationem peragere valeat, debetne sacerdos dicere « Mysterium fidei »?

Resp.: Negative. Verba Mysterium fidei, quae e contextu verborum Domini deducta sunt et post consecrationem posita, « ad fidelium acclamationem veluti aditum aperiunt » (Cf. Const. Missale Romanum). Quando autem peculiaribus in adiunctis nemo respondere valet, sacerdos illa verba omittit, sicut fit in Missa quae, ex gravi necessitate, celebratur sine ullo ministro, in qua salutationes et benedictio in fine Missae omittuntur (Inst. gen., n. 211).

Idem valet pro concelebratione sacerdotum in qua nullus fidelis praesens est.

3. When no member of the faithful is present who can make the acclamation after the consecration, should the priest say « The mystery of faith »?

Resp.: In the negative. The words The mystery of faith, which have been taken from the context of the words of the Lord and placed after the consecration, « serve as an introduction to the acclamation of the faithful » (Cf. Const. Missale Romanum). When, however, in particular circumstances no one is able to respond, the priest omits these words, as is done in a Mass which, out of grave necessity, is celebrated without any minister, in which the greetings and blessing at the end of Mass are omitted (Inst. gen., n. 211).

The same holds true for a concelebration of priests in which no member of the faithful is present.

Notitiae 5 (1969), 324–325, n. 3mysterium fidei, private massPDF of Notitiae 5 (1969), 324–325