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Hoc in situ interretiali ordinantur responsiones, explanationes, et decreta ex « Notitiae » aliisque interdum fontibus (ut AAS) desumpta, quae facilius aliis locis minime inveniuntur. Finis est praestare textum originalem, versionem anglicam, et exemplar PDF paginarum pertinentium ex « Notitiae » vel alio fonte. Presens igitur labor opusculum « Ordo Missae locis correspondentibus illustratus » aliquatenus extendit. Est enim labor imperfectus quem, cum operae mihi est, suscipio. Denique Reverendo domino Danieli Gill, domino Radosław Gosiewski, et domino Abram Córdova y Muenzberg, qui nonnullas ex responsionibus transcripserunt, gratias refero, item etiam domino Ioanni Oliveire dominaeque Cristae Mootz, qui in linguam anglicam responsiones quasdam verteri adiuvaverunt. Exemplaria PDF exstant etiam textuum nondum transcriptorum. This website organizes responses, explanations, and decrees from Notitiae and sometimes from other sources (such as AAS) that are not readily available in other places. The goal is to provide the original text, an English translation, and a PDF scan of the relevant pages from Notitiae or other source. In some ways, the project is a further development of my Cross-Referenced Ordo Missae. This is an ongoing prject which I work on in my spare time. I am also grateful for the help of Rev. Daniel Gill, Mr. Radosław Gosiewski, and Mr. Abram Córdova y Muenzberg in transcribing some of these responses and also to Mr. Johan Oliveire and Miss Crista Mootz for helping to translate certain responses into English. PDFs are available even for texts that have not yet been transcribed.
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8. Quoties dicendum aut canendum sit Agnus Dei, ex iis quae in Ordine Missae innuuntur?

Resp.
Ratio huius textus est comitari fractionem panis consecrati donec particula immittatur in calicem (IGMR 56e). Practice, duo casus considerandi sunt:
a) Si praesidens est unicus celebrans, vel si pauci adsint concelebrantes, tunc fractio panis satis celeris est. De more Agnus Dei ter dictum vel cantatum, ut traditur in Ordine Missae 131, sufficit ad comitandam actionem.
b) In casu quo multi sint concelebrantes vel fractio panis diutius proregetur, tunc potest pluries iterari Agnus Dei usque ad finem fractionis, secundum rubricam OM 131: Quod etiam pluries repeti potest ... et iuxta indicationem IGMR 56e: Haec invocatio repeti potest quoties necesse est...

8. How many times should the Agnus Dei be said or sung based on what is implied in the Ordo Missae?

Resp.
The purpose of this text is to accompany the breaking of the consecrated bread while the particle is dropped into the chalice (IGMR 56e). Practically, there are two cases to consider:
a) If the presider is the only celebrant or if only a few concelebrants are present, then the breaking of the bread is quick enough. Customarily, the Agnus Dei said or sung three times, as given in the Ordo Missae 131, is sufficient to accompany the action.
b) In the case where there are many concelebrants or the breaking of the bread is prolonged for a longer period of time, then the Agnus Dei can be repeated several times until the end of the breaking, according to the rubric in OM 131: Which can also be repeated several times ... and according to the indication of IGMR 56e: This invocation can be repeated as often as is necessary...

Notitiae 14 (1978), 306, n. 8agnus deiPDF of Notitiae 14 (1978), 306