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N.B. In « Notitiae » 1 (1965) et 2 (1966), supra responsa, invenitur monitio: Solutio quae proponitur nullam induit vestem officialem. Solummodo habet valorem orientativum: solutiones enim ex officio publici iuris fient, si casus fert, a competenti Auctoritate in « Acta Apostolicae Sedis ». N.B. In Notitiae 1 (1965) and 2 (1966), this notice appears above the responses: The solution which is proposed takes on no official character. It has only an orientative force; solutions will be published officially, if the case warrants, by the competent Authority in « Acta Apostolicae Sedis ».

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16. Utrum in Missa cum participatione mulierum tantum (e. g. in domibus religiosiarum) mulier, rite edocta, munus lectoris possit assumere?

Resp.: Negative. Munus lectoris est munus liturgicum, quod solis viris committitur. Proinde Epistola legatur a celebrante.

16. Whether in a Mass with the participation of women only (e.g., in houses of religious women) a woman, properly trained, can assume the role of lector?

Resp.: In the negative. The role of lector is a liturgical role, which is entrusted only to men. In such a case, the Epistle should be read by the celebrant.

Notitiae 1 (1965), 139–140, n. 16lector, readings, womenPDF of Notitiae 1 (1965), 139–140

49. Commentaria de Missa cum concursu populi tractantia nil dicunt de Missa, quae celebratur in domibus religiosarum, in scholis pro puellis, etc., quod dolendum est, praesertim relate ad munus lectoris et commentatoris. In genere haberi non possunt pro his officiis clerici in sacris constituti. Sed nil dicitur in rubricis, quod talia munera assumi possunt a laicis? Quid faciendum?

Resp.: Ad munus lectoris: Assumi potest a ministrante, etiamsi non est clericus. Quando non habetur ministrans, lectiones et Epistola legantur, secundum n. 46. Ritus servandi, ab ipso celebrante (cf. « Notitiae » p. 139-140, n. 16).

Ad munus commentatoris: Generaliter sufficit, ut secundum Instructionem S. C. R. diei 3 sept. 1958 n. 96, a) « mulier cantum aut precationes... quasi ducat ».

49. Commentaries that treat of Mass with the presence of the people say nothing about a Mass which is celebrated in the houses of religious, in schools for girls, etc. which is lamentable, especially as it relates to the role of lector and commentator. In general, clerics in holy Orders cannot be found for these offices. But nothing is said in the rubrics that such roles can be assumed by laymen? What to do?

Resp.: With regard to the role of lector: It can be taken by a server, even if he is not a cleric. When a server is not available, the readings and the Epistle should be read according to n. 46. of the Ritus servandus by the celebrant himself (cf. « Notitiae » p. 139-140, n. 16).

With regard to the role of commentator: It generally suffices that, according to the Instruction S. C. R. of 3 sept. 1958 n. 96, a) « a woman should quasi-lead... the chant or the prayers ».

Notitiae 1 (1965), 187–188, n. 49commentator, lector, readings, womenPDF of Notitiae 1 (1965), 187–188

LE RÔLE DES FEMMES DANS LA LITURGIE

Nous relevons dans « La Vie du Diocèse », revue officielle du diocèse de Mont-Laurier au Canada (28 janvier 1973, pp. 8-9), un article intitulé « Femmes et Liturgie », dans lequel l’auteur écrit notamment:

« Il y a quelques mois paraissait à Rome un document qui réformait les « ordres ecclésiastiques », où il était bien dit que les femmes ne pouvaient en aucun cas accéder à ces ordres, pas même à celui de lecteur et d’acolyte. Mais un commentaire émanant de Rome a par la suite bien précisé que si les femmes ne pouvaient recevoir ces derniers ordres, elles pouvaient cependant en exercer la fonction. Alors, mesdemoiselles et mesdames, soyez désormais en paix! Vous pouvez officiellement servir la messe ».

Une telle opinion appelle les éclaircissements suivants:

Il est exact que, tout en permettant aux laïcs d’être institués lecteurs et acolytes ― anciens ordres mineurs qui étaient réservés aux clercs ―, le Motu proprio Ministeria quaedam du 15 août 1972 précise que l’institution de ces ministères est réservée aux hommes (n. VII: cfr. Notitiae 9-1973, n. 79, p. 16). Notons qu’ils n’y a là aucune contradiction si l’on distingue bien l’exercice d’une fonction, accomplie per modum actus, et l’institution d’un ministère permanent, dont l’exercice habituel suppose une compétence particulière. Notons enfin que, dans le cas des femmes désignées comme ministres extraordinaires de l’Eucharistie, on ne peut assimiler leur fonction au ministère global du service de l’autel.

THE ROLE OF WOMEN IN THE LITURGY

We take up in “La Vie du Diocèse”, official periodical of the Diocese of Mont-Laurier in Canada (28 January 1973, pp. 8-9), an article entitled “Women and Liturgy”, wherein the author notably writes:

“Some months ago a document was published in Rome which reformed the ‘ecclesiastical orders’, where it was well established that women could not gain admittance into these orders under any circumstance, not even to those of reader and acolyte. But a remark coming out of Rome consequently made it very clear that if women could not receive these orders, they could however carry out their functions. In that case, ladies and gentlemen, from now on be at peace! You can officially serve Mass.”

Such an opinion calls for the following clarifications:

It is correct that, while allowing the laity to be instituted as readers and acolytes ― ancient minor orders that were reserved to clerics ― the Motu proprio Ministeria quædam of 15 August 1982 explains that the institution of these ministers is reserved to men (n. VII; cf. Notitiæ 9-1973, n. 79, p. 16). We must note that there is no contradiction at all in making a clear distinction between the exercise of a function, fulfilled per modum actus, and the institution of a permanent ministry, the regular exercise whereof implies a particular competence. Finally we must note that, in the case of women designated as extraordinary ministers of the Eucharist, their function cannot be considered as similar to the overall ministry that is the service of the altar.

Notitiae 9 (1973), 164ministeria quaedam, womenPDF of Notitiae 9 (1973), 164